How do you see the implementation of Obamacare affecting recruiting in 2013"

Will employers hire fewer people through recruiters, more, or about the same as they did this year?

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Shush I'm not compassionate dontchaknow :)
 
Bill Schultz said:

You do know we're paying for the uninsured now?

Amy Ala said:

I shared this thread with my EXTREMELY liberal brother in law and he asked me if I had "any compassion for people without healthcare".

 

I told him 15 years of recruiting killed any compassion I once had lol. Just kidding... but honestly I prefer to give my money directly to charities of my choice including charities that provide low cost or free healthcare services. But I lack compassion. Whatever. We haven't begun to see the negative effects on business and recruiting - though clearly we all know they're coming!

Peter, Obama's ensuring all get insurance jacks the cost of premiums up for everyone.  Large companies will see their premiums rise an average of 12K per year--9K absorbed on average by the employer and 3K on average by the employee.

So yes, they provide insurance now.  But their cost per employee per year will skyrocket and there will be business ramifications, there always are.

Now the sky is not falling, you are correct.  However, every time the government increases the cost of doing business through taxes, mandates, or regulations the end result is a retarding of business activity from what it otherwise would have ordinarily been. 

 

That growth/profit rate that would have been 8%, now becomes 5% or lower.  That's how the game is played.  If the government takes 35 cents of every dollar from you then increases it to 55 cents, I guarantee you won't spend as much as you have less money to spend.

Lets see, Obamacare adds to all the confusion and employers are not sure how its going to affect them. That's clearly not good for business.

So, what did the Republicans do, they didn't give a good enough reason for people to vote them in or overturn Obamacare. They got too hung up with race, religion and all the BS. If they had stuck to fiscal policies and understood that demographics is changing, they would had a better chance.

People too hung up with ideologies on both sides, meanwhile ordinary folks are going to suffer...way to go.

 

 

The only one talking about race was the Obama campaign.

 

Romney never mentioned race.  He ran a Reaganesque economic inclusive campaign stating Obamacare's a jobs killer plus will cost everyone more money in higher premiums.

 

Evidently the majority of people now prefer government dependence or voting for a candidate based on racial identity politics..

 



Suresh said:

Lets see, Obamacare adds to all the confusion and employers are not sure how its going to affect them. That's clearly not good for business.

So, what did the Republicans do, they didn't give a good enough reason for people to vote them in or overturn Obamacare. They got too hung up with race, religion and all the BS. If they had stuck to fiscal policies and understood that demographics is changing, they would had a better chance.

People too hung up with ideologies on both sides, meanwhile ordinary folks are going to suffer...way to go.

 

 

Bill, all I can tell you , Republicans really have to understand the demographics and stop the blatant or racial undertones.

Heck, the younger generation seem to get it better.

Suresh, Romney's getting blamed within the GOP cause he never mentioned anything other than economic growth plans and Obama's failed economic record.  Didn't mention values, little on defense, not much about amnesty/borders on the campaign--nor race.

I guess I don't know what undertones you're talking about.  I'm Jewish, and have a trained ear for racism/bigotry.  You should understand if a Christian wants to sing a Christmas Carol in a public school majority of my fellow Jews (not me) will regard this as anti Semitic.  Are those the kind overtones you mean?

He ran an inclusive campaign--not divisive.  Obama fomented the racial turmoil stirring the pot.

Sorry Suresh I'm not sure what you mean. As far as the younger generation getting it better - my oldest daughter is a freshman at a major public university. One night shortly before the election she was hanging out with about 15-20 other students in her dorm lounge. The conversation turned to politics and she said (when asked) that she voted for Romney because she felt she'd have a better chance at finding a job in 4 years under a Romney presidency. She was immediately taken to task by the majority of the students and one girl actually said (very snidely) "Are you even allowed to call yourself a woman if you vote Republican?"

 

Too many in our "younger generation" don't know shit.
 
Suresh said:

Bill, all I can tell you , Republicans really have to understand the demographics and stop the blatant or racial undertones.

Heck, the younger generation seem to get it better.

Bill, I don't blame Romney as much, its the other talking heads of the party that go off on tangents. Invariably as the party candidate, Romney got affected as he couldn't take a clear stand on what he stood for. You can't deny there was a clear segment of the white population who are out to get Obama because of his race or all the questions if he was muslim or his birth certificate (easy read by non whites as racially motivated). That is what I called BS which really hurt the party among even those who would have leaned republican.

I did not like the timing of the Obamacare and believe it affected hiring quite a bit when it got passed, and may still cause problems.

 

Our almost 25 year old, his wife, and our 23 year old daughter all voted Romney for economic reasons, as Amy's daughter.

 

In her University's sorority many of the upper classmen were using drugs and binge drinking primarily out of fear/panic they'd have astronomical student loans without a sufficiently paying job to pay them off.

 

This was really a racially divided election.  The overwhelming majority of minorities and almost 40% of Whites voted Obama and supported Obamacare, raising taxes on the rich, abortion, gay marriage, amnesty, subsidized birth control for women, and expanded government.

But it wasn't due to Romney's campaign rhetoric.  Obama directly pandered to all his base groups including women on contraception/abortion, Hispanics on amnesty, Blacks on government programs, Gays on Gay marriage,and Youth on student loan assistance persuading all Romney was waging a war on them. 

 

Plus, they supported Obamacare/bigger government.

The war was waged by Obama IMO, and he succeeded getting re-elected.

I blame the people for re-electing him despite his economic failure--not Romney.  Obama was the better Santa Claus.

Suresh if you're referring to the Talking Heads, we have agreement.

 

The differences with Obama should be policy, not personal.

Amy, kudos to your daughter for actually voting for her beliefs. Not afraid of being different, thats great.

I tried to teach my kids to think independently and not necessarily follow a party line.

The younger generation has been exposed to a lot more diversity (whether growing up in schools, neighbors, online, travel) and they are not afraid of differences. This is just my obeservation from my personal experiences over the last 25 years in this country. We are changing as a country and some part of the population have trouble accepting this and the politicians and talking heads take advantage of this crowd for ratings and votes.

 

By the way John, sorry to hijack your Obamacare discussion.

 

Bill sounds good, lets go after the talking heads...

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