I am venting right now. I am thinking about working with a 3rd party agency on a position that has been very difficult to fill. I reached out to 2 agencies via email (they've contacted me in the past) to simply ask what their fee agreement is.
Why can 't they just email me with the fees? I don't want to chat for 20 minutes about your agency. I don't even know if I am going to work with you. I just want to know the darn percentage IF I decide to use your services. If I decide to use your service, then we'll chat.
I've worked with 3rd party agencies for years. I don't need the sales speech, why you are the best, etc, etc. Just tell me the darn fee.
Ok, I've vented. Thanks!
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Permalink Reply by Jerry Albright on October 30, 2012 at 1:14pm Mind if I ask - if you've worked with 3rd pary agencies for years - don't you have a few that you know? And wouldn't you know their fees?
P.S. If you called me (260-347-1715) I would let you know my fee is 25%. (20% for new clients in the Greater Seattle area.)
Permalink Reply by Tiffany Branch on October 30, 2012 at 1:20pm This is a new company for me in a new industry. Obviously, if it was a space/industry that I've been in before I would have folks to reach out to.
Clearly it's not hard to provide the info. The info Jerry provided is all I would need to know. Then I'd pass cuz I'm not paying more than 20%. (Unless it's an IT/Engineering role.)
Permalink Reply by Jerry Albright on October 30, 2012 at 1:32pm Can I ask though - are you basing your choice of agency, then, on fee and nothing else?
Permalink Reply by Tiffany Branch on October 30, 2012 at 1:50pm Of course not, but that is a huge factor. For this particualr role in this industry, most agencies who support this world will all have the same candidates since it is a very niche market.
Permalink Reply by Jerry Albright on October 30, 2012 at 2:34pm That makes sense. Good luck Tiffany!
Permalink Reply by Amy Ala on October 30, 2012 at 3:46pm The alternative Tiffany is to reach out to those agencies, tell them you're looking to bring on contingent support and will pay up to 20%. If that works for them, you can talk more.
(especially if you're a new client in the Seattle area :) )
Permalink Reply by Bill Schultz on October 30, 2012 at 5:27pm Tiffany's right- you should state your fees proudly. I'm 25k flat for staff, 30k for director level, 40k for VP
42k for new clients in Seattle.
Permalink Reply by Tiffany Branch on October 31, 2012 at 10:04am I'm in the Southeast. So Seattle won't work for me. However, if I ever have a west coast need....I don't pay more than 18% for non-managerial positions. Who wants to work with me???? LOL
Permalink Reply by Jerry Albright on October 31, 2012 at 10:13am Actually - the "Seattle" thing was for Amy. :)
To be perfectly candid - I think many of the successful recruiters - the ones who actually complete the projects rather than agree to what might be considered a "lower" fee and then never call back - are overbooked as it is. It's a blazing market right now in a majority of the recruiting fields.
I hope you find a recruiter for the search who will make us all proud though. Has anyone from here (no names needed of course) connected with you to see if they could help?
Permalink Reply by Tiffany Branch on October 31, 2012 at 10:19am No, I'm really trying not to use a third party. It depends on how the rest of my week goes with my current slate of candidates. If nothing pans out, I have identified the 3rd party that I will work with.
Jerry Albright said:
Actually - the "Seattle" thing was for Amy. :)
To be perfectly candid - I think many of the successful recruiters - the ones who actually complete the projects rather than agree to what might be considered a "lower" fee and then never call back - are overbooked as it is. It's a blazing market right now in a majority of the recruiting fields.
I hope you find a recruiter for the search who will make us all proud though. Has anyone from here (no names needed of course) connected with you to see if they could help?
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