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Recruiters with no manners

Started this discussion. Last reply by Sandra McCartt Sep 4, 2013. 13 Replies

Why do recruiters pursue you, hound you, plead for you to apply for a gig, then you hear nothing. For weeks. Then weeks turn into never. Not even the simplest shortest phone call or email saying,…Continue

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Don't bother applying for this job

Started this discussion. Last reply by Valentino Martinez Aug 3, 2011. 4 Replies

I'm just tossing this out here. When did we become so callous and short-sighted that the new norm in job posting language is something like: "If you're unemployed do not apply for this job."?

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Hanah Thu Hang liked Charlie Allenson's discussion Recruiters with no manners
Feb 17
Sandra McCartt replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"There is always the possibility that the recruiter washed out and is no longer a recruiter for that very reason."
Sep 4, 2013
Bill Schultz replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"It's on our mission statement:  "We give feedback, always." Those who don't are cowards or just pricks.  "
Sep 3, 2013
Ivaylo Chividzhiyan replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"Lovely presented point Rayanne! "
Aug 12, 2013
Rayanne replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"I think, for the most part, that recruiters - being human - hate to deliver bad news.  Back when I was an active recruiter, I would ALWAYS call my candidates who weren't getting "invited to the show" to let them know.  They…"
Aug 12, 2013
Suzanne Levison replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"We always follow up. What I usually tell someone who is not chosen for a position is "This isn't the one for you." And, then if the client has given me specific reasons (they almost always do) I relay that to the candidate. One…"
Aug 12, 2013
Ryan Leary liked Charlie Allenson's discussion Recruiters with no manners
Aug 12, 2013
Mick Essex replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"As I said, email has helped, but the issue still persists. 99 phone calls vs. 99 emails .... still huge time consumption. I usually preface each meeting with a disclaimer that if you haven't heard back from me within 7-10 days you were not…"
Aug 8, 2013
Ivaylo Chividzhiyan replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"@ Charlie - I agree it is as simple as that. Here comes in place what a wise man once said: "If you want to do something - you will find a way, if you do not want to - you will try to find an excuse." In majority cases the latter sounds…"
Aug 8, 2013
Charlie Allenson replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"@ Mick - how long would it take to set up a stock email : Thanks for your interest, the client has decided to go it another direction. All the best, Mick Then just go to re-send. And send it. A little humanity goes a long way."
Aug 8, 2013
Mick Essex replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"Amber makes some very good points as well. Telling a desperate job seeker they weren't chosen is never easy and clients don't make it any easier. In the recruiting business, our best friend and worst enemy is TIME. It's a resource we…"
Aug 8, 2013
Allen replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"There are clearly some bad apples in this business, as in any business. Hopefully, marketplace pressures will eventually weed them out. The rest of us strive for excellence in customer service on a daily basis."
Aug 7, 2013
Ivaylo Chividzhiyan replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"The polite "you were not successful" as a minimum if not more is way better than leaving the candidate hanging in the space with not a single revert to let him/her know he/she was not successful. Just use that common phrase if you do not…"
Jul 22, 2013
Amber replied to Charlie Allenson's discussion 'Recruiters with no manners'
"I can't answer for everyone, and certainly do give candidates that I've brought into the process feedback/follow up. The times when it gets awkward are when: 1. Client never responds to me. Now, I will have to tell the candidate that this…"
Jul 18, 2013
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Recruiters with no manners

Why do recruiters pursue you, hound you, plead for you to apply for a gig, then you hear nothing. For weeks. Then weeks turn into never. Not even the simplest shortest phone call or email saying, "Thanks for applying, but the client has decided to go in a different direction." Or, "They're looking for a more specific skill set." Or 'They're sure you're a very nice person, but your work sucks." Some display of humanity and simple courtesy would be great.See More
Jul 18, 2013
Charlie Allenson commented on Johnny Campbell's blog post 'Studs & Cuddlers: The future of Talent Assessment: How many Sexual Partners have you had?'
"You might consider throwing in an STD check."
Dec 21, 2012

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