Comment by Barbara Goldman on June 13, 2012 at 6:50pm

UPDATE:

EXEC3 just got off the phone with HR, she gave him 10K less then she said she would. He said that he needed a couple of days to think about it. She told him that he either takes it today or no offer.

Honestly, all you HR PROS, what do I do?

 

Comment by Barbara Goldman on June 13, 2012 at 6:51pm

I am calling on all of you HR pros, who tell me you are the bomb, to help me fix this. This is not good, it is horrid

Comment by Bill Schultz on June 13, 2012 at 7:42pm

I woould call the hiring manager and tell her how she's about to lose a candidate. Chou have nothing to lose.

Comment by Bill Schultz on June 13, 2012 at 7:43pm

I meant You not Chou.

Comment by Sandra McCartt on June 13, 2012 at 8:59pm

Time for a letter to the CEO in my opinion.

 

Dear Mr. Bigwig,

We are very disappointed that after presenting three qualified candidates to your HR department, who were interviewed so many times they jokingly commented that they thought this was a business and not the CIA,all turned down what should have been a good opportunity with your organization.

We can only operate on the information we are given and expect our clients to be able to trust us when we present information to them as we trust our clients when we receive information.  We provided salary information on all three candidates to your HR department, made Ms. Diddlebutt aware that we had made it clear what the company range was for this position.  Diddlebutt indicated she was aware of asking salaries which would not be a problem.

 

Imagine our surprise and the surprise of the first candidate who was offered 70K less than his current salary.  He had agreed to strongly consider 30K less to move to the area where your position is located.  He did not agree to give up two of his children and the support thereof in order to take the job and move what was left of his family.

 

Based on this debacle we made every effort to reinforce that it appeared the salary range we were given by Diddlbutt was not going to be offered.  Candidate two was aware of that change and was still interested until he was told that the position was filled but Diddlbutt wanted to fly him into corporate anyway.  Diddlebutt is obviously in charge of a corporate secret that she refuses to share with people who are trying to help her or, believe it or not, a candidate who is asked to take a leap of faith, take off work and fly in to talk about something for which he will not be prepared or know if he has any interest in pursuing.  Being of sound mind candidate two opted not to play the secret game.  Diddlebutt was so highly insulted that she has become unable to read and comprehend the attached letter from the candidate to her making her aware that he had no problem with our efforts but felt the company was acting very strangly so chose not to fly off into the wild blue yonder unsure of why or for what reason.  As it appears Diddlebutt has lost her chili over being rejected a seond time she has determined that she will not use our services again.  I can truthfully say that this is being very well received by our group.  We always hate to lose a business opportunity but when trying to do business becomes a guessing game fraught with lies , secrets and misrepresentations we are only too happy to have been excluded from whatever this game is called.

All of the above brings me to candidate three who has been through a somewhat bizarre interview process but still interested.  We made every effort to again make Diddlebutt aware of his willingness to consider a minimum salary offer.  Much lower than candidate one turned down if it makes any difference.  He was onboard for that number only to receive an offer 10K lower than had been discussed.  Diddlebutt is getting better at negotiating 10K less is a lot closer than 40K less than the candidate's bottomline number.  Candidate three being somewhat put off by a lower offer than was expected asked for some time to think it over.  Your Diddlebutt seems to be on final run on runway 7 to overall failure in this recruiting effort so told him that it was now or never.

 

We certainly regret that we are unable to do more than provide three qualified candidates for Diddlebutt to offfend.  Having been dropped as a supplier of cannon fodder for Diddlebutt i simply wanted to be sure that you were aware of what is going on in the world of Diddlebutt and company.  If you are and it is with your blessing, it's your railroad and you have the right to blow the whistle anyway , anytime you wish.  If you are not aware and do not feel this is the way you wish your company to be represented, be aware you have a kamakazi HR person on target to kill candidate 3 as well as create some ripples in the pond of your competition as to your hiring practices.

 

It is not often that i relish being fired but truthfully it is a relief that i did not have to make that decision in this situation.  We always work in good faith with our clients but blind faith when the process is being directed by a kamakazi pilot on a mission to destroy your reputation and mine has been a very strange experience.  Should you be interested in correcting this situation so that we can represent your organization effectively, i stand ready to discuss with you at your convenience.  If not ,i simply wanted you to be aware of the impression that is being made on candidates who are interviewed by ms. Diddlebutt.  A situation we make every effort to prevent.

 

Comment by Barbara Goldman on June 14, 2012 at 9:39am

UPDATE

I wrote our dear friend in HR a letter. It wasn't as creative as the one Sandra wrote, and I wish I would have waited and used hers.  I have heard from our HR loved one, and she is now lying, she is actually telling me that she gave the offer to our candidate on Monday, and told him he had two days to think about it. NOT TRUE. Her letter is typical, pointing fingers at everyone. I might be able to save this last offer, but not sure. All candidates in this debacle are steamed, and all will tell the truth. It's interested to see how she is handling this. Not pretty, So, I copied the VP on everything. I'll keep you posted.

Comment by Erin Passmore on June 14, 2012 at 10:07am

Sigh - These are the HR people that give the few good HR people such a bad name.  A good friend of mine refers to HR as Human Remains and frequently asks how I can be a part of it...  when I read this I really don't know.  I think I need to change careers....  Barbara where do you find these people????

Comment by Sandra McCartt on June 14, 2012 at 11:03am

@barb, since you are copying the vp on everything I would have my candidates write you a short note as to why and what happened and get that to the vp. Since the fish eyed hr bitch has determined to take you down to justify her mess I would not go without a fight.

Comment by Amy Ala on June 14, 2012 at 11:05am

Barb I think you're a magnet for crazy HR :) Good for you calling that awful person out! Erin's absolutely right this is a classic example of ridiculous HR behavior that taints everyone within a stone's throw. Good luck to you AND your candidates... keep us posted!!

Comment by Linda Ferrante LoCicero on June 14, 2012 at 11:18am

I have fired clients before, too, and I don't like doing it, but when it's our name and reputation on the line, you'd better believe I'll do it!  We'll partner with HR until the end of time, but we will NOT take the fall when they mess up.  We are partners, not lackey's.  Good job, Barbara, you did/are doing the right thing!

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