Comment by Pete Radloff on September 9, 2010 at 1:50pm

It's all about candidate experience. In the day and age when candidates can tell hundreds of people about your process in mere seconds, IT MATTERS. 20 years ago, when no one could be the "beat reporter" for candidate advocacy, it did not matter. Throw the candidate out with the bathwater, and fine 20 more. Now if you do that, other job seekers, potentially those who are the TRUE A-players you want to recruit, are already not taking your calls because of the posts or calls to FB, Twitter, Glass Door, etc.

Candidate experience in your megaphone to the rest of the community that says "hey, we have a good process here, and everyone matters when they walk through that door."

Comment by Chris Brablc on September 9, 2010 at 2:58pm

I agree with Pete. It's becoming more and more important to make sure candidate experience is great. Not only can candidates ruin your employer brand by talking bad about your company via social media and word of mouth but you also make it much harder to reach top candidates that have options. If you put too many hoops in your process, you are not going to end up with top candidates as they won't be willing to jump through those hoops.

A great candidate experience has more impact on the quality of the candidates you get rather than quantity in my opinion. And that matters.

Thanks,

Chris
chris@smashfly.com

Comment by Pete Radloff on September 9, 2010 at 3:03pm

I'm thoroughly embarrassed here. So I read this with about 4 other things going on, and in my mind, I'm thinking, "I just had a conversation with Gerry Crispin about this at RecruitDC" He'd be the PERFECT plug for this". Then seeing that Gerry wrote this, well, you can guess how happy I will be for the arrival of Friday.

Gerry, as always, great stuff.

Comment by Gerry Crispin on September 9, 2010 at 3:40pm

Thanks Pete. I can see you and Chris can see the possibilities but, its not about whether they CAN...its about about what they DO.

Show me candidates who aren't wussies and instead, intent on ruining the brands of employers who have NOT added positive candidate experience recruiting practices. Let me hear from them how they told their friends and their friends told their friends- Glass door included (all of whom were, of course, eminently qualified) and as a collective 'hive-mind' they turned off the recruiting pipeline.

When was the last time someone you knew who was seeking a job said, "You know those firms just don't get it. they ask too many personal questions. I'm not going to apply even though it is the perfect job in the perfect spot at the perfect salary"

I want to talk to the person who won't jump through hoops if the opportunity even appears to be what they want.

And, I'm not speaking to an experience in which a candidate is trashed by an idiot hiring manager or recruiter. No one stands for that. I'm just sayin If the questions are a pain, if the obstacles are many, if the acknowledgments, feedback and ability to get status are few and far between, Is that not a challenge to the A player to overcome after her lesser competition has whined themselves out of the lineup?

Comment by Gerry Crispin on September 9, 2010 at 3:42pm

Oh, and should I be using a picture in which my tongue is more firmly seen as being stuck in my cheek?

Comment by Gerry Crispin on September 9, 2010 at 3:43pm

Where's @Jerryalbright when I need him.

Comment by Jerry Albright on September 9, 2010 at 4:29pm

Hello.....Gerry.......

You know my position on this. I'm happy to add it to your discussion here.

My position: there is no such thing. Obviously there are individual candidate experiences. I mean - of course they are living, breathing people and are aware of the process of interviewing - but there is no larger "Candidate Experience" to speak of. It's just another buzzword for the speaking circuit far as I can tell.

Sorry Pete - you're dreaming. Gerry somehow knew read my mind and nailed my response before I even read the post. (He's good!) Thinking that all these applicants are remotely interested in some social discussion about their specific experiences with any company in particular is laughable. Heck - you can barely get a candidate to tell you about their qualified friend who is LOOKING for a job in many instances. To think they all pick up the torch and any sort of momentum is built is in my opinion way off the mark.

You know what I think if (which has never happened) some guy I know tells me about his bad interview experience? I think "well - you must suck then - or they would have hired you."

Should we all be aware of the "human" side to all this? You bet. Is there a larger discussion? Possibly - but I think it's been had. Treat people as you'd like to be treated. Do the best you can to offer feedback. Don't string people along. Hire the good ones.

The rest is hogwash.

Want to know the experience I'm concerned most with? My client's. Now THERE is a good place to spend some time. For the most part on any given day there are millions of faceless resumes being emailed to HR folks and line managers alike. They all look the same. It's a daily barrage of 1 and 2 page Arial (or Times New Roman) type in the same structure and format as the last and the next. Nice little email message saying how perfect the candidate is in about 3 sentences......Word doc attached.

Know what experience a candidate wants? To be hired. The rest is over-hyped.

Know what employer brand they want to see? Your company logo on a paycheck made out to them.

Comment by Chris Brablc on September 9, 2010 at 5:25pm

Jerry and Gerry, definitely valid points and I agree motivations of candidates are probably more centered around incentives (getting hired, getting paid) than anything else (especially connecting with the company). And even when they "connect" with the company, they are doing so to get hired.

But when I hear candidate experience, I think of it more from a functional standpoint. I think of the process of a candidate hearing about a job position (through job ad, referral, etc.) through to when he finishes the interview process (not necessarily the social conversation side of things).

Sure you can put tons of obstacles in the way of candidates to apply or not fix a faulty application (one where you are losing significant portions of candidates), but understand why you are doing it (To get less candidates applying? To test skills?) and who's sticking through it (A-Players? Candidates desperate for a job?). I just don't see the point of making it harder than it needs to be without valid strategic reasons.

Lastly, totally agree with you that there need to be better solutions in place after candidates submit their resumes in terms of search and filtering. Dealing with the massive inflow of resumes is the hardest task recruiters have to deal with. And we definitely need to treat others like we want to be treated.

Comment by Gerry Crispin on September 9, 2010 at 9:52pm

Jerry. Perfect timing. You are the best. Candidate experience has become a cliche w/o defining it as you just did. The conversation should build from a fondation of what really matters. Everything else, as you say is 'hogwash'. I aspire to 'channel' your 'emperor-has-no-clothes pov this Fall but still- nothing like the 'original'.
Best

Comment by Gerry Crispin on September 9, 2010 at 9:57pm

Chris. I enjoy the basic point we all share to improve the efficiency of a process- especially the broken pieces that make life miserable for so many. The problem is that so many recruiters are driven by their technology rather than the master of it. Almost none have ever applied to their own jobs...ever...let alone at least once a month to test the 'path' in. I'm a fan of mystery shopping your openings to get at the broken pieces and unintended consequences. About 3% do it.

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